Paulf Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 ...can you guess what bugs these are... ...here is picture # 1... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulf Posted July 15, 2008 Author Share Posted July 15, 2008 ...and here is picture # 2... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulf Posted July 15, 2008 Author Share Posted July 15, 2008 ...just something different to add to the mix... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfisherman Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Jfisherman here, Paulf, is that a blue winged olive in picture #1 because that looks (at least from a distance) an awful lot like what was hatching at Hawrelak on Sunday (the 13th). To get a closer look I captured one and it had a body awfully close to that in the picture with splotchy brown wings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfisherman Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 ...and here is picture # 2...Paul, the bug in picture #2, is it a caddisfly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry H Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Looks like a PMD to me, but then what do I know???? I doubt there are any BWO's hatching anywhere at this time. Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisS Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Terry I'm with you looks like a PMD Just a bit big for BWO Tight Lines Always Dennis S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave robinson Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Is Paul being Tricksy? Looks like two different bugs to me. Both mayflies of course. The first one has sightly opaque wings and a dun colored body. A Pale Morning Dun immitation would work regardless of species. Say an Adams or (gulp) CFF in the right size. The second has transparent wings and a light olive body. A blue winged olive pattern in a larger size with light olive body might work. An olive biot body parachute (RS Quad) would be a good choice. So regardless of the actual species, one can find something a a well stocked fly box to immitate. One other possibility is that one is the dun and the other the spinner of the same species. I know that they do change color a bit, particularly the wings, after mating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisS Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Dave I'm sure your right on the 2nd it is a a dun just turned spinner and I would say it's likely a PMD As you say both are mayflies. Paul great Idea we need some stuff like this just to help in insect recognition. Tight Lines Always Dennis S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulf Posted July 15, 2008 Author Share Posted July 15, 2008 ...picture #1 was taken about one hour earlier than picture #2...both pictures were taken on the same body of water... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerBob Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 ...just something different to add to the mix...Ditto, you can find your answer here. http://www.hatchesmagazine.com/page/january2006/86 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scratch Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 The first one is a male Callibaetis, the second looks to be ephemerella - but without sizes it's hard to be sure. Certainly isn't the same bug - since it would have had to change species and sex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave robinson Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 I tend mostly to go along with Scratch. Two species, certainly two different sexes and a dun and a spinner. From what I see in "Hatches" the first is a male dun, plain wing, small hind wing (which may mean it's not a callibaetis) (can't see tails or guess length) but from color etc, baetis is probably a good guess The second is a female spinner, not sure how you classify the main wing, large hind wing (so definitely not the spinner for the baetis) I'd guess size at 6 to 7 mm to ephemerella is also a good guess. Thanks to Paul from me also for putting these up and asking the question. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulf Posted July 16, 2008 Author Share Posted July 16, 2008 ...never really thought about including the length of the bugs... ...picture #1, the bug is around 3-4mm in length... ...picture #2, the bug is around 6-7mm in length... ...hopefully this helps in determining the species of insect... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry H Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 I don't think pic #1 is a callibaetis. They don't call them speckle wings for nothing -- no sign of that in the pic. But, as I said before, what do I know????????? Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scratch Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 True Terry - and it's definitely a dun from the opacity... so the callabaetis is probably out.... hrm... size is small too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisS Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Paul are you going to let us know what these are. Tight Lines Always Dennis S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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