Tys Flies Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Thanks to the club for the support they gave me during my first presentation at the club. It went over quite well I thought, and I was not as nervous as I originally felt. I will definately be back to do some more demonstrations, I have many tricks up my sleeve. I realize now that I may have gone a little faster then I should have, as I believed that I would be rushed for time with having to go through 3 patterns. So I will discuss them here a little bit and if you have any further questions feel free to post me or talk to me at the club. I have many tricks, techniques, and preferences to discuss with the members if they are willing to listen and ask the right questions. I know myself that I am mostly a self taught tyer so most of my knowledge is hands on, trial and error, and so I am able to discuss my opinions through experience. My first fly of the evening was the CDC & Elk. It was originated my Marc Pet.... something or other. The Danish tyer that invented the Magic Tool. I feel it is a far better pattern then the standard EHC. It has beeter floatation and imprint on the water. It is a quick tie, perfect for the beginner, it is easy to fill the box, floats well (do not add fly floatant to this or you will wreck it), and catches many fish. Marc created the fly for some of these reasons. The CDC offers the floatation, movement, and offers some representation of legs and antennae. My problem with the EHC lies in the fact that takes a little longer to tie and the traditional pattern has a gold rib which I feel is very unnecessary and just adds xtra weight to a fly that is meant to float. Tie the CDC & Elk in various sizes, colors, or do what I suggested by blending the feathers to get a mottled affect; and this will be a great general caddis pattern. The main tip is is when wrapping the CDC your rear end of the fly it should appear like a dubbed body and as you keep stroking fibres back as you wrap it up the shank of the hook you will begin to notice that more fibres towards the front will not bind down and so sweep back. You can find complete detailed directions online. My second fly was my May Impressionism and I have seem to have lost many people here. The wings are not all that difficult they just take practice and by all means this is not a beginners pattern it was developed for picky fish and as a general attractor pattern. If you ask RB nicely im sure he could find you the original link for Wally's written out directions for tying the wings, if not I am more then willing to go over it with those willing to learn at the club. As I mentioned any water foul bird feather will work as long as it is webby and peals easily of the stem. Like my dad mentioned it is a one or two fish fly b/c it gets pretty beaten up but believe me it is worth the effort to tie. I would not go to any stream without it or a parachute adams. My third fly was the Foam Head Turk's Tarantula, it was a pretty general and easy to follow pattern. It is a good attractor pattern and can be used to represent stoneflies and hoppers. It was developed b/c I do not like spinning deer hair that much so the foam head eliminates that. I can not think of the name of the original tyer for the Turks Tarantula but he used a deer hair head which produces a collar(similar to a muddler or hopper head). As an end note, I was not happy with my flies to night as I admit I rushed them a little so I will tie some up and hopefully be there for the next meeting. I will show you guys the possibilities of the Wally wing, as tied as a Dun, Parachute, Spent, and Water Walker style. I will also bring some more CDC & Elks and some more of those Foam Head Turk's Tarantulas. I am not sure who confiscated my flies at the end of my session for the club but he can have some of these better ones if he likes. Thanks again for everyones enthusiasm. Although, I am young I have lots of fly tying BS stored in my cranium, feel free to ask for some of it. TF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacres Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Thank-you Tyler. Very entertaining demo. Great information, and tips. If you want, I can do up some photos of your flies for you. Just bring a set to the next meeting. Looking forward to cutts part 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainbow Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Excellent presentation Tyler, Thanks. Pacres, I like your idea of posting the info. Rainbow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulf Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Fantastic job Ty. Looking forward to your next tying demonstration. These patterns will soon be added to my dry fly box. Thanks Paulf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry H Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Tyler, I also enjoyed your presentation last night as well as chatting it up with your dad about some of the great fishing in south eastern BC. I've been meaning to do up some CDC and Elk patterns for some time, and your presentation will spur me on to actually doing it. I first heard about it from posts elsewhere by Hans Weilenmann -- it's his #1 fly. He has an excellent step by step description at http://www.danica.com/flytier/steps/cdcelk/cdcelk.htm It was also featured on the Fly Fisherman mag web site a while back. The link to that article is http://www.flyfisherman.com/ftb/hwcdc/index.html The step by step stuff for the Wally wing is available at (among other places) http://www.flyanglersonline.com/flytying/f...061702fotw.html Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacres Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Thanks for the links Terry. Work has it that you may be heading down south soon for good. I have seen the cdc & elk before, but never tried tying it. I have a bunch of CDC I need to use up, but the stuff I have is type 4 cdc. The patterns I found for elk & cdc call for type 1. I'll give it a go with the type 4 petitjean cdc I have though. And to think I have been wasting time tying soo many standard EHC. Time to unload them on Ebay I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoWolf Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Great show TF Thanks 4 running through the wally wing for me at the end and giving me the fly u tied while showing me. I am going to work a getting that one right sos I can use it down south next soft water season. Sno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry H Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 Pacres, you heard it right about the going south thing. It's retirement next June 30, , build house in the Crowsnest Pass next summer , and if all works as planned, move some time next fall . We'll have lots of room for NLFT friends should anyone venture down to join me for a bit of fishing in the area. Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave robinson Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 Pacres had it right. The CDC Elk and majic tool man's name is Marc Petitjean which litterally translates as Little John. Wonder who Robin Hood is? Not too worry about the quality of demo flies. The first time always seems to go by too fast and you thnk you have a way too many thumbs. Thanks for the excellent effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tys Flies Posted November 19, 2004 Author Share Posted November 19, 2004 Darren if your going to tie up some of the CDC & Elk don't worry about the grade of the CDC, I never did and the fly still works. I know when I first found the pattern and he called for grade 1 CDC im like wtf is that. It wasn't until after that I learned there were different grades. The stuff I used last night and before is w/e superfly puts on the shelves at the fishing hole. As long as its long enough to wrap around the shank I don't really care what grade it is. So you should have plenty of material then. Tf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacres Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 There are 4 different types of CDC feathers. I bought a pack of type 4, and tried out the fly with it last night, and it worked out great. Here is a link for those interested in seeing the different types of CDC Feathers I also gave the wally wing a try, and I think it turned out pretty good. It was actually alot simpler than I thought. Much easier to tie than hacle tip wings. I didn't try the foam turk you demoed yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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