Hank Peters Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Looked up Sundance Creek in the AB Fishing Guide and they indicated that there was grayling, rainbows, bull trout and some browns and whitefish. So I guess I caught my first grayling and bull trout. Yours looks like a bull as well. Hank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacres Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 If your reffering to the picture posted in another thread, that is likely a brookie. The Klave thread. The bulls have no spots in the dorsal fins, and the one in the photo certainly does. It's a bit fuzzy in the picture as to the colour of spots present. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave robinson Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Remember, no black, put it back. If it has black on the dorsal fin, it's NOT a bull. Brookie for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scratch Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Nope - it was a brookie without question. 2 guarantees: 1. No black spots on the body - char family - so still possibly a bull 2. Shallow fork, vermiculations on back - Brookie 3. Red circles with blue haloes - no question - brookie. The brookies have obviously moved down from the little sundance. My guess - any bulls in there would be bigger from eating all the grayling and brookies too. The bull is a pretty identifyable fish - note the back coloration and dorsal in the image below... If you look back at the klave pic - you'll see that the vermiculations, black spots on dorsal and row of large spots down the lateral line definitely identify the fish as a brookie. If I'd caught a bull - you'd have REALLY heard me talking about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scratch Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 My brookie - for consideration... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scratch Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Here - I digitally enhanced my photo to get some better color detail... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scratch Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Heheh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerBob Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 No, it was a brookie. But was it really "Sundance".... hmmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerBob Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Cheers to "Old Scratch" on his first Brookie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scratch Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Thanks Bob - Glad I got it with my buddy on the water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave robinson Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Any suggestion that the brookie wasn't on the Sundance is wrong. Either that, or them two guys snuck off to another stream while I was busy catching grayling on the Sundance and then ran back to Sundance to get pelted by rain. :lol: Goes to show you that the AB fishing guide don't always tell the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerBob Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Any suggestion that the brookie wasn't on the Sundance is wrong. Either that, or them two guys snuck off to another stream while I was busy catching grayling on the Sundanceand then ran back to Sundance to get pelted by rain. :lol: Goes to show you that the AB fishing guide don't always tell the truth. Yeah.. we had to hunt you down before you were Bear Bait too. You were gone long enough.. so you never know (Vince Creek perhaps?). Remember, what happens at the Klave.. stays at the Klave. Here is a pic of Dave "Oustanding in his field"... and all "soaking wet" to boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertabowhunter Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Is that the embarass? It looks alot smaller than I thought it would be.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scratch Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Is that the embarass? It looks alot smaller than I thought it would be.... You might note - Dave was on the Sundance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertabowhunter Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 ohhh, sorry, The prior post said what happens at ht e klave stays at the klave.... Soooo I only took it as that was the river... But also have just seen another post of them floating the Embarass so, I understand now.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Peters Posted June 30, 2005 Author Share Posted June 30, 2005 Now that you'all mentioned the differences it is easy to see that Scratches was a brookie. I'm not totally convinced on mine though. What do you all think. Bull or Brookie. Hank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Peters Posted June 30, 2005 Author Share Posted June 30, 2005 OK I need some help on posting pictures. That didn't work at all. Sorry Hank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerBob Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 Tough to tell the young ones apart ain't it.. but I'm almost convinced that Hank's is a Bull Trout (based on the dorsal fin - but it's not fully extended). Mikey what says you? http://www.watertonpark.com/reference/bull_trout.htm http://www3.gov.ab.ca/srd/fw/fishing/FishID/bull_t.html "No Black, Put it Back!" It's not too late for the bull trout though! Waterton Lakes National Park and the Province of Alberta are taking steps to aid its recovery. In 1995, a complete ban was implemented on the possession of bull trout by anglers. The slogan developed to aid anglers in identification was "No Black, Put it Back!" referring to the lack of black spots or lines on the back or dorsal fin of the bull trout. A bait ban was also introduced in the Belly and Waterton Rivers and their tributaries to reduce hooking mortality. Bull trout tend to swallow bait deeply and it is often difficult to remove the hook without hurting or killing the fish. Additionally, the North Fork of the Belly River, known bull trout spawning habitat, was closed to all fishing. Work is also being done to reduce the impacts of on stream structures like culverts, dams, and weirs on bull trout.More Links: http://www.mackdays.com/bull_trout_identification.htm http://www.fwp.state.mt.us./bulltroutid/ This was my first Bull Trout (No mistake!): OK I need some help on posting pictures. That didn't work at all. SorryHankHank see this post on posting photos. http://forum.nlft.org/index.php?showtopic=582 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerBob Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 Here's a side by side comparison of each, and I took the liberty of resizing to match, and un-sharp mask each image. http://www.pc.gc.ca/pn-np/ab/banff/visit/visit14c_E.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertabowhunter Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 My thoughts...Brookie... no bull, no brookie... I'd definately go with brookie on that one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerBob Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 My thoughts...Brookie... no bull, no brookie... I'd definately go with brookie on that one...Care to support your thoughts with some sort of logic? And "which one" is "which one"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scratch Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 My thoughts...Brookie... no bull, no brookie... I'd definately go with brookie on that one... I'm with Bow. I'd bet the proverbial left nut - those are both brookies. Red spots - pale haloes, square tail - thems brookies in my books - even the young one hank got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Peters Posted July 1, 2005 Author Share Posted July 1, 2005 I may now just have to agree with Scratch. Although it wasn't as square a tail as his was, you can see that it does have the black leading line before white on the lower fins ; which according to Lances pictures show that it would be a Brookie. Hank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vince Posted July 3, 2005 Share Posted July 3, 2005 RangerBob Nice looking little Brookie - cute little guys for sure - well done Scratch. RangerBob - don't think that piece of water was Vince Creek - close but not quite there. Weather permitting ( as soon as the river flow rates come down to normal ) I'd like to hit the stream you and I were talking about the other night. While there I'd like to see if I can again find Vince Creek and this time I'm going to GPS it for future reference. Maybe a weekend camping trip might be in order. Vince Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerBob Posted July 3, 2005 Share Posted July 3, 2005 RangerBob Nice looking little Brookie - cute little guys for sure - well done Scratch. RangerBob - don't think that piece of water was Vince Creek - close but not quite there. Weather permitting ( as soon as the river flow rates come down to normal ) I'd like to hit the stream you and I were talking about the other night. While there I'd like to see if I can again find Vince Creek and this time I'm going to GPS it for future reference. Maybe a weekend camping trip might be in order. VinceAre you sure it wasn't "Vince Ck" flowing in there? Looked liked it to me the way you described? Yup.. we'll do it again soon, an overnight sounds just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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